In this fascinating episode, Mary Payne is joined by Dave Cawley, the host of the popular podcast Cold. Cold is a true crime podcast, in which Dave investigates the murder of Susan Powell, the murder-suicide that her husband Josh Powell later commits, and her obsessive father-in-law Steve. Dave lets Mary Payne in on how long it took him to tackle such a large case as well as why he decided to take it to a podcast platform. The two examine Josh’s family dynamics and the idea that abuse can be passed from generation to generation. Were Josh’s actions a direct result of the abuse he encountered at the hands of his step-dad, Steve? Mary Payne and Dave weigh in on this speculation. Dave also discloses to Mary Payne his theory on what really happened to Susan and who he believes murdered her.
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