Mary Payne is in the studio with Marc Groman, one of the hosts of Their Own Devices, a podcast about kids and technology; and she is left scared sh*tless. Marc is an 18-year expert in privacy and technology and previously worked in the Obama White House on privacy protection. Mary Payne and Marc discuss the boldness of kids and issues that technology and social media have brought up in the lives of kids today. Mary Payne is astounded when she and Marc discuss sexting and different risks that kids are taking, even just to have their devices during the middle of the night. This episode—and Their Own Devices—is a must for any parent, or parental figure, as it gives an insight into the technological world of kids today.